[REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

[Phuzzy4242]

Thanks, meeno.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078419
http://www.rarefilmfinder.com/showfilm.php?id=14134

[ghost]

1080p AI upscale:

[Image]

You can switch between French and German audio:
Like this post to see ed2k links  [2.80 Gb]

English subtitles:
Like this post to see ed2k links  [76.3 Kb]

[Night457]

This was such a fun film! Definitely time to upgrade my French subtitled DVD. Thank you ghost!

[DreamScape]

1080p AI upscale:

I posted a 1080p webl-dl here
https://the.nextthing.club/showthread.p ... =tt0078419

[ghost]

I posted a 1080p webl-dl here

I didn't know that it even existed! I'll check it. Thanks, DreamScape.

[ghost]

I got it and it somehow also looks like an upscale from SD. Now it's up to you guys... Which version looks better?

[Night457]

I posted a 1080p webl-dl here
https://the.nextthing.club/showthread.p ... =tt0078419

Thank you DreamScape! Jdownloader here I come ... workupload is new to me, maybe I should try that for my own uploads sometime ...

I got it and it somehow also looks like an upscale from SD. Now it's up to you guys... Which version looks better?

What, you won't even do the work for us by posting matching screenshots?

EDIT: Aha, I see now! Different runtimes. Not so easy to match screenshots ... I will see what I can manage ...

[Night457]

Comparisons -

(Note: some of the download sources [dosya] at the.next.thing appear to be dead. I successfully downloaded the workupload links.)
DreamScape's the.next.thing file specifications:

Spoiler: General Unique ID : 42958488954232227321506647865984636397 (0x20518107BBDA497BFEEA102E827D55ED) Complete name : Trocadero.bleu.citron.1978.1080p.iT.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-KicWEB.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 3.17 GiB Duration : 1 h 26 min Overall bit rate : 5 243 kb/s Encoded date : UTC 2022-08-28 08:23:03 Writing application : mkvmerge v70.0.0 ('Caught A Lite Sneeze') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4 Cover : Yes Attachments : cover.jpg Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4 Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 h 26 min Bit rate : 5 142 kb/s Width : 1 784 pixels Height : 1 072 pixels Display aspect ratio : 5:3 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 24.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.112 Stream size : 3.11 GiB (98%) Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : A_AAC-2 Duration : 1 h 26 min Bit rate : 99.0 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -42 ms Stream size : 61.3 MiB (2%) Language : French Default : Yes Forced : No Text #1 ID : 3 Format : UTF-8 Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8 Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Duration : 1 h 25 min Bit rate : 52 b/s Count of elements : 1079 Stream size : 32.8 KiB (0%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text #2 ID : 4 Format : UTF-8 Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8 Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Duration : 1 h 26 min Bit rate : 57 b/s Count of elements : 1185 Stream size : 36.4 KiB (0%) Title : SDH Language : English Default : No Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:1 00:07:12.291 : en:2 00:14:47.541 : en:3 00:23:38.624 : en:4 00:31:00.832 : en:5 00:39:44.165 : en:6 00:47:20.373 : en:7 00:55:30.248 : en:8 01:03:45.956 : en:9 01:13:15.039 : en:10 01:20:05.330 : en:11

ghost's FLM file specifications:

Spoiler: General Unique ID : 312905527289119080532307951048915147059 (0xEB6769981861A36034348951DB9BD933) Complete name : Trocadéro bleu citron (1978).1080p.ger-fre.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 2.80 GiB Duration : 1 h 24 min Overall bit rate : 4 764 kb/s Encoded date : UTC 2022-09-15 17:51:32 Writing application : mkvmerge v70.0.0 ('Caught A Lite Sneeze') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L5 Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference fra : 5 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 h 23 min Bit rate : 4 412 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.085 Stream size : 2.57 GiB (92%) Writing library : x264 core 161 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=192 / keyint_min=19 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4412 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=5882 / vbv_bufsize=8825 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio #1 ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : A_AAC-2 Duration : 1 h 24 min Bit rate : 192 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 117 MiB (4%) Language : German Default : Yes Forced : No Audio #2 ID : 3 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : A_AAC-2 Duration : 1 h 24 min Bit rate : 192 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 116 MiB (4%) Language : French Default : No Forced : No

The subtitle translations are different.

(DreamScape's has both internal optional subtitles and a downloadable external file. I am comparing with the external file.)
Sample DreamScape's subtitle:

Spoiler: 570 00:44:10,042 --> 00:44:13,944 Listen, when a man and a woman love each other... 571 00:44:14,125 --> 00:44:15,793 I know all that. 572 00:44:15,979 --> 00:44:18,332 Then you know that they consummate their love. 573 00:44:18,438 --> 00:44:20,686 Yes, but I've plenty of time for consummating. 574 00:44:20,792 --> 00:44:25,255 Very well. And apart from the pleasure of being together. 575 00:44:25,417 --> 00:44:29,209 The man and woman find the fulfillment of their love in the child. 576 00:44:29,375 --> 00:44:31,876 I don't want one at the moment. 577 00:44:32,042 --> 00:44:35,336 You've reassured me. That's all I wanted to know.

Sample ghost's subtitle:

Spoiler: 593 00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:40,201 When a man and woman falls in love... 594 00:42:41,287 --> 00:42:42,287 I know what happens. 595 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,628 You know that they will "make love"? 596 00:42:45,652 --> 00:42:47,817 I will have plenty of time to "make love". 597 00:42:47,841 --> 00:42:52,360 Very well. Until then, you can play with her in the way 598 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,156 a child would normally show his affection. 599 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:57,316 That's not enough. 600 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,750 You reassure me. That's all I wanted to know.

[Holy crap, those are some different translations!]

I matched the screenshots as best I could, but they are not exact

LEFT: DreamScape screenshots.__RIGHT: ghost screenshots
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All I can definitely say is that the young couple ARE SO DAMN CUTE! I would like to watch this next, but everyone else is sleeping and I can't blast the groovy music.

[Zorijer]

One of these seems either stretched or squeezed horizontally... Might be useful to compare an object that should have the same height and width.

[ghost]

What, you won't even do the work for us by posting matching screenshots?

Sometimes I am lazy, too.

Aha, I see now! Different runtimes

Yes, my source was the 25 fps PAL DVD, Dreamscape's web-dl is running with 24 fps.

Holy crap, those are some different translations!

I just got the subs from opensubtitles.org. Interesting, that there are different transltions.

Thanks for making the caps, Night457. I think you only can see the difference on a big TV display.