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Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:41 am
by Sully23
It will be our turn to forget to make a film faithful to Nabokov, and I am content to imagine that film using parts of Louis malle Eva ionesco and piccole labra

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:04 am
by For An Angel
Sully23 wrote:
kev wrote:The original movie Sully was referring to, I'm pretty sure, was Matchstick Men where Nicholas Cage was a con artist with a 14 year old daughter played by Alison Lohman who was roughly 22/23 at the time of filming..

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That is should be the movie as I said the daughter of 14 played by a twenty years old actress would not surprise me either because the casting there was no girl teenager will win the role or because there are issues that seem to be not for a girl young but in the end that will be a discussion will not end
Yes, but her character was actually supposed to be a lot closer in age to Alison at the time. She was actually conning him and only pretending to be his daughter. In Lolita, Dominique was 15 when she made the movie but played the character from 12-17. The one time they mention in the movie her age of 14 was supposed to be a couple of years into their relationship.

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:21 am
by Rich_Visiting
Sully23 wrote:It will be our turn to forget to make a film faithful to Nabokov, and I am content to imagine that film using parts of Louis malle Eva ionesco and piccole labra
Little Lips followed the Lolita trend extremely well !! A man becomes infatuated with a young girl, gives her everything he can but the fleeting love interest of the child turns to a more popular / exciting guy, in this case a travelling gypsy :lol: There's a lesson here somewhere :idea:

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:27 am
by Sully23
but it hurts that he does not succeed and another is who ends up winning and commits suicide

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:18 am
by Rich_Visiting
Sully23 wrote:but it hurts that he does not succeed and another is who ends up winning and commits suicide
When you love someone so much, an immediate instinct is to end it all. Even over time, often death is preferable to dealing with the loss. Only a significant other love can save you from this situation.

I'm not sure if it was love or obsession here, love turns so quickly to obsession and it is difficult to discriminate. When you hurt the other person by not letting them grow, is it love? Only in isolation, and in the absence of others / influence, could this relationship grow.

Also, people become accustomed to circumstance. The girl was appreciative to start with, but when the good things became normalised they started to mean nothing.

The rich guy should have taken time to get over it, bought whiskey and whores and laughed as the girl lived in squalor with the gypsies :lol:

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:12 pm
by Sully23
Bilitis is another film that uses the same method

Although it was directed by David Hamilton, a master in photographic art with teenage models and 'lolitas' at the end it was pure smoke, the main actress patti d'arbanville was 26 years old not even the rest of the cast was believed to be all grown up with roles of teenagers

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:17 am
by Triela
kev wrote: The original movie Sully was referring to, I'm pretty sure, was Matchstick Men where Nicholas Cage was a con artist with a 14 year old daughter played by Alison Lohman who was roughly 22/23 at the time of filming..

kev.
I usually think it's disappointing when that happens, but Alison Lohman definitely wins the Award for "Best portrayal of a 14 year old by an 18+ actress". Pity she stopped acting. While I was watching it, I kept thinking: "Wow, she looks so young, but she acts so well, it would blow my mind if she's really 14...."
But then she wasn't, and she wasn't supposed to ACTUALLY 14 years old in the movie neither....

And also..... Hailee Steinfield in True Grit. The original actress was actually in her 20, but not Steinfield.

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:54 am
by Triela
Rich_Visiting wrote:This was generally a US trend, I think, to avoid confusing the male audience with a child cast who exhibits some form of identity.
No, this trend isn't new, and it occurs outside the US as well. Older actors playing younger characters is the RULE, not the exception. This is especially or also true for MALE roles, not just females.
Rich_Visiting wrote:consider Hermione Granger in Harry Potter for an example. See how they gave her baggy clothing and made her hair kind of outward and geekyish in the first few movies, then as she gets older the hair becomes slicker and the clothing becomes tighter (or lower cut).
Yes, girls become more feminine when they get 14-18. In the first movie she was like NINE or ten years old, so.... Her style moved naturally with both character and actress.
Rich_Visiting wrote: "sassy" girls with attitude (of course entirely politically correct; multi-ethnic and overwhelmingly more of the girls are stronger than boys type empowerment storyline).
Why do you have a problem with multi ethnic and strong female story lines? Strong females have in fashion for the last 25 years, ever since Xena and Buffy, and perhaps before that too. And maybe YOU live in a lily white town, without people of color, but most ofthe world doesn't.

Rich_Visiting wrote:I didn't come back to complain lol
ORLY? Well, ya could've fooled me.....rotflmao
Rich_Visiting wrote: The worrisome aspect is that, what would be considered 2nd World countries, now seem to have adopted US style ideologies
Why is this worrisome? Don't worry, you're not ACTUALLY beng colonized by America, they can barely manage their own country. And it doesn't sound like you live in a country where political correctness is a thing, so again: don't worry.
Rich_Visiting wrote: children simply aren't portrayed in a realistic light.
1. Dude, it's THE MOVIES.
2. Who are you to say that the kids aren't protrayed realistically???
3. It. Is. The. Movies!
Rich_Visiting wrote: film producers today are airing on the side of caution
'erring', not airing. google that
Rich_Visiting wrote:a lesson political correctness.
The ESSENCE of PC is to be POLITE to other groups who have DISPROPORTIONATELY less power. Yes the idea is powersharing, why would that be so bad? This means all groups but white males (and some types of christians) who even in 2020 have 90% of the worlds cash and power and top jobs. Yes, other groups demand their piece of the pie. Which is a good idea, seeing how Us white males have thoroughly screwed up this world

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:57 pm
by Phuzzy4242
Triela wrote:The ESSENCE of PC is to be POLITE to other groups who have DISPROPORTIONATELY less power. Yes the idea is powersharing, why would that be so bad? This means all groups but white males (and some types of christians) who even in 2020 have 90% of the worlds cash and power and top jobs. Yes, other groups demand their piece of the pie. Which is a good idea, seeing how Us white males have thoroughly screwed up this world
Dude, you violate your own statements. First, you insult someone making calm reasonable comments not even directed to you (politeness, remember?), then you insult entire groups of people based on their race, religion and gender - the very definition of racism. You hit just about every definition of the word you could, didn't you? After that you denigrate their possessions as if it's somehow wrong they EARNED what they have. You strike me as being very young so you know little about the real world, only what you were indoctrinated with in socialist schools. Leaving that aside, FLM is not about politics and we don't want it here.

LEAVE YOUR POLITICS AT THE DOOR OR JUST LEAVE ALTOGETHER. I hope that's plain enough for you to understand.

Re: When adults are cast in child roles, the future of child cinema?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:26 pm
by ferdi111
Adults in child roles are quite silly thing (can you imagine Pippi Longstocking with kingsize tits or Tommy with big moustache and beard?)
If a person is a few years older and looks and behaves like character he/she are playing it is…. acceptable