[REL] Heavenly Creatures (1994) [New Zealand + Germany]

[jezevex]

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Some screens:
https://www.youthincinema.com/movie.php ... tures-1994

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110005/

https://www.rarefilmfinder.com/movie.php?id=1096

https://sensitivecontent.info/movie.php?id=1096


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[pillowbaker]

Interesting that this wasn't already here. Should have been one that I watched many years ago, but I just haven't yet. I have heard this was a good movie, though. Thank you jezevex for reminding me about this. I will upgrade my very old dvdrip and put this on the watchlist.

Here's a decent looking link on uloz for anyone interested. 5.4gb (unverified, and really it's 5.05):
https://ulozto.net/file/u4ueaaejqFP4/he ... 4-majo-mkv

[M2S]

In the scene where Pauline (Melanie Lynskey) and John quit having sex when she sits up the frame is actually cropped and there exists some footage where you can see a little more of her. However I haven't been able to track down that release yet. Every DVD I downloaded so far has been cropped (even the 4:3 Canadian). Must have been something even older then (LD or VHS?).
Does anybody know where to look?

[Night457]

Does anybody know where to look?

Here: https://ulozto.net/file/5SzvCq610aNR/he ... IMEGR2AD==
Or here: https://ulozto.net/file/8T9cINwYrdgL/he ... VhH2SyMN==

These are free downloads. Ulozto is region-blocked in some countries, like Germany, but a VPN gets around it. I have not downloaded these files, but they are labeled UNCUT and have the UNCUT runtime. They are labeled 720p in the filename but they are actually both 1080p, specifically 1920x1080. This makes them Open-Matte 1.78 instead of theatrical 2.39, so they SHOULD be what you want. I don't know this movie well enough to guarantee it, however.

For comparison, check out this version which is UNCUT also, but 2.35, so it is NOT what you want:
https://ulozto.net/file/RJbNq16zLBOd/he ... 1dqmD0Zj==

[David32441]

Does anybody know where to look?

Here: https://ulozto.net/file/5SzvCq610aNR/he ... IMEGR2AD==
Or here: https://ulozto.net/file/8T9cINwYrdgL/he ... VhH2SyMN==

These are free downloads. Ulozto is region-blocked in some countries, like Germany, but a VPN gets around it. I have not downloaded these files, but they are labeled UNCUT and have the UNCUT runtime. They are labeled 720p in the filename but they are actually both 1080p, specifically 1920x1080. This makes them Open-Matte 1.78 instead of theatrical 2.39, so they SHOULD be what you want. I don't know this movie well enough to guarantee it, however.

For comparison, check out this version which is UNCUT also, but 2.35, so it is NOT what you want:
https://ulozto.net/file/RJbNq16zLBOd/he ... 1dqmD0Zj==

On the subject of open matting 2.35:1 Titanic in the cinema and on some releases is 2.35:1. But Cameron approved a open matte 1.78:1 version about 5 years ago. There's a shot comparison featuring the grand stairwell and they look better in the open-matte version. Special fx are often rendered to the original format ratio though so not sure if they've been cropped in on films like this. There's one or two WETA fx shots in this film so maybe they're cropped at the sides, or rendered at 1.78:1. IMHO I don't like the black bars on a TV on 2.35:1, but does look nice in the cinema when the screen gets wider.

[M2S]

This makes them Open-Matte 1.78 instead of theatrical 2.39, so they SHOULD be what you want.

"Cropped" is probably the wrong description, more like "zoomed in". The issue isn't about 2.35:1 vs 1.78:1 (which are both zoomed in at that scene even though the OM provides more frame), it's about that one scene (or maybe two) being censored since maybe the first ever DVD (and every release after).

So no, these links are not what I'm looking for

[Night457]

Oh well, normally this sort of thing is due to the chosen matte so that is what I assumed. (It's ridiculous to have an open matte and then zoom in, but there is no expecting sense in the movie business.) Have you actually SEEN the presentation you are referencing, such as a 1990s cable TV broadcast? Or are you just going by Internet Hearsay? Often that is just nonsense and wishful thinking. If you actually SAW it, then alright. Maybe eBay has some old VHS tapes!

[M2S]

The scene exists on those celebrity video sites but it's low quality and stretched to 16:9. It doesn't have the typical "VHS degradation" signs so I suspect it's a LD rip but who knows. I couldn't find any information online.

[Night457]

I found many Widescreen laserdisc copies on eBay for cheap, but I never had a laserdisc player and am not about to start now. I also found a full-frame "Heavenly Creatures 1994 VHS Rare Hard To Find Original Release Version" on eBay, but I am *not allowed* to buy any more VHS tapes. (* my own rule.)

Considering where you found it, maybe it was taken from a TV broadcast rather than official home media. Such broadcasts sometimes have alternate movie presentations, for whatever reasons. Commercial TV will generally censor, but cable TV can sometimes show surprisingly more. (Such as the STARZ Open-Matte version of "Showgirls" or the German Open-Matte version of "Pretty Baby".)

[David32441]

I recall the open-matte version of Single White Female showed a lot more of Jennifer Jason Leigh than the widescreen version!