[REL] Die Tochter AKA Dark Blue Girl (2017)

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goku33 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:58 pm Yes, but if in a thread various versions are being shared..and it’s also asked to re-share versions of it..I think it’s generally good for archiving purposes and to differentiate.. naming files and releases properly. :) but we can agree on disagreeing regarding this :P
I am agreeable to that. :D

(It would be absurd for me to tell anyone that they should not be interested in the information that they are interested in.)

You did ask "why" and I am literal-minded: I gave reasons WHY. Your points are perfectly reasonable to me. Some threads have multiple releases, for sure! The surest way to indicate a SPECIFIC file is to quote the post and edit it down to just the relevant portion, like the quote header and the ed2k link with file name. (The arrow in the quote header directs back to the original post.)

When I have multiple 1080p versions of a movie from various sources, I know I am wasting drive space. I do this a lot.
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Re: [REL] Die Tochter AKA Dark Blue Girl (2017)

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What is the source of the 1080p if it’s not hdtv?
The source was a Web-DL from a streaming site. I muxed it with the DD5.1 sound from the DVD.

I really don't care about the source in the file name.
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I guess with multi-source remuxes a filename could get complicated, like

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Die Tochter - Dark Blue Girl (2017).IMDB-tt6551510.1080p.H264.WebDL.AC3.5.1.DVDrip.RMX.FLM-ghost-261019.mkv
There are times (not here) when a movie name is so generic that I wished for an IMDB title number included with it!
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Re: [REL] Die Tochter AKA Dark Blue Girl (2017)

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Night457 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:51 pm I guess with multi-source remuxes a filename could get complicated, like

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Die Tochter - Dark Blue Girl (2017).IMDB-tt6551510.1080p.H264.WebDL.AC3.5.1.DVDrip.RMX.FLM-ghost-261019.mkv
There are times (not here) when a movie name is so generic that I wished for an IMDB title number included with it!
This is why NFO files existed along with their ASCII art :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.nfo

The important part is where the video source came from. For me it matters (having it in the file Name) cause it could be just a screenscapture = Webrip. I always want to exactly know where it came from, if it was „lossless“ ripped/downloaded etc.

You do make an excellent point about the IMDb number being useful. This can be especially useful for Usenet search engines whose search isn’t very exact or fine tuned and will give you many spam results but with a unique string or number you will find immediately what you’re looking for.

My personal file would be:

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Die.Tochter.2017.German.DD5.1.1080p.WEB-DL.H264-ghost
Or does it have two audio sources?

Anyways, I am not pedantic about it. But no source at all in the file name triggers my ocd a tiny bit lol. Basically a simple dvdrip or Web-dl would be sufficient. But hey I take whatever i can :)
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Re: [REL] Die Tochter AKA Dark Blue Girl (2017)

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goku33 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:25 pm This is why NFO files existed along with their ASCII art :D
GOD, how I hate that ASCII art crap. It is distracting and adds absolutely nothing of value. The text information inside can be useful, for sure. The problem is that it is a separate file and can get not reshared on other sites or by other means. It is just something that is the equivalent of what we (might) put in our posts here. Once "our" files are out on eMule, we can't worry about what others might do with them.

My only point is, where do we STOP putting information in the name of the file? Some people list the cast members!! From ulozto:

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His Fatal Ways (1991) Alfred Cheung, Teresa Mo, Suki Kwan, Lam Kau, Do Siu-Chun, Waise Lee, Lau Wai-Man, Fruit Chan, Cho Wing.mkv
https://ulozto.net/file/rX7I373ABi5s/hi ... cRGzZ0LmV=

I changed it to this:
His Fatal Ways (1991).1080p.ZH-hardsub.mkv

Someone somewhere will always want more information.
For me it matters (having it in the file Name) cause it could be just a screenscapture = Webrip. I always want to exactly know where it came from, if it was „lossless“ ripped/downloaded etc.
Wouldn't Mediainfo in a post tell more about the quality than the exact named source? If it is high bitrate 1080p of a given size, I don't see the difference whether it is WebDL or from a Blu-ray. And if someone rips a Blu-ray and shares it in a torrent, then someone else posts that file on a site and I download it, is not that same file then a WebDL? It took me awhile to figure out that something identified as a "BRrip" is almost always lower resolution, even only SD. Why go to the trouble of acquiring and ripping a 1080p Blu-ray only to drop it to a lower resolution???!!? The sacrifice of bitrate and filesize is enough, thank you. If I wanted SD then the source should be DVD, darnit!

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Die.Tochter.2017.German.DD5.1.1080p.WEB-DL.H264-ghost
Your personal filename example is much in line with what I see on torrent sites like RARBG. I know many people don't want their identifier on a file, though it helps on a torrent site. (And what kind of juvenile wanker chooses "Handjob" as his name for non-porn movies? I avoid those whenever possible, simply because of the name. The quality is not an issue, whenever that is my only source.)
Or does it have two audio sources?
No, just the original German. I don't know what if any dubs have appeared.
But hey I take whatever i can :)
Me too! But I have learned to trust the quality of ghost's files and know they are most likely the best available at that given time. He obsessively upgrades, too. Often times I download a new version before I have gotten around to watching the old, and he says in the post what is better about it. (If not revealing the mystery of the exact source.)
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The issue is, it could also be just a Copy downloaded from YouTube - HD could be good but even if Blu-ray was the source it would still be just a YouTube rip with low Bitrate.

Regarding BDRips: these mainly exist for people with weaker/older hardware and even a decade ago we had BDRip.XviD releases - as someone who used a DVDPlayer with USB plug-in possibility back then, BDRips absolutely made sense. They are much much superior to any DVDRip be it XviD or x264 encoded because the source was a 1080p remastered bluray. (Only very rare cases like „The Man from Earth“ don’t have a visible difference between DVD and BluRay because the Film simply was only shot in MiniDV)

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Man- ... 88/#Review
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The important part is where the video source came from. For me it matters (having it in the file Name) cause it could be just a screenscapture = Webrip. I always want to exactly know where it came from, if it was „lossless“ ripped/downloaded etc.
Yeah, I understand what you mean. I store all my movies on a NAS and I just want to have simple and short files names. I would also have to rename about 3000 movies. :?

But feel free always to ask where my releases came from (if I can remember ;)).
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Re: [REL] Die Tochter AKA Dark Blue Girl (2017)

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ghost wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:44 pm
The important part is where the video source came from. For me it matters (having it in the file Name) cause it could be just a screenscapture = Webrip. I always want to exactly know where it came from, if it was „lossless“ ripped/downloaded etc.
Yeah, I understand what you mean. I store all my movies on a NAS and I just want to have simple and short files names. I would also have to rename about 3000 movies. :?

But feel free always to ask where my releases came from (if I can remember ;)).
Much appreciated. Thanks!

Actually, years ago when I started downloading films I also always renamed the scene/p2p releases because I funnily thought this way no one can accuse me of having downloaded copyright protected movies & tv shows :D (because having the release group in the file name would be a give away..)

Now, I actually like having all releases named properly. Makes it easier for me to reconstruct at all times where which file came from and if an upgrade is appropriate. Release names are basically useful metadata. youtube-dl/yt-dlp also have the —add-metadata parameter that lets you save video description, title, upload date etc to the video file. I will rarely look at video descriptions again but it’s useful to have & keep them.
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Re: [REL] Die Tochter AKA Dark Blue Girl (2017)

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:lol: :lol: :lol:


Lots of great filename discussion here, everyone. Night, I like your point about how, in an semi-exclusive forum setting like this, we can simply write out the source info without resorting to long files names. Also, a question for goku or anyone, does it also not trigger your ocd when you're looking at your filelist in your file explorer (or equivalent) interface, and your otherwise organized directory of 300+ movies and files are all listed nicely, except for one of them has a considerably longer filename like

"Gothic Medieval, Notre Dame - David Munrow, Early Music Consort Of London - Music Of The Gothic Era - feat Paul O'Dette Lute-Laut-Luth - 2CD - FLAC"

and it P U S H E S out the "columns" of the next row of files past further than the edge of your interface window. I mean, there's text there I cannot even read unless I highlight the filename, copy, text the name in text editor, then read it. Lol, I know you wouldn't do this exactly, goku! I am just venting about these shenanigans. Do I really need lute to be in three different languages? And just like with deleting potentially obsolete video files, I have a hard time deciding which side of the filename to excise (this is usually easier with movies than classical music).

On top of it all, I enjoy seeding back/resharing files and deciding when and how to rename files makes this tedious. (I understand goku would argue a proper file naming scheme would lessen this issue a bit, but like I said, I am not really arguing with anyone, just adding to the topic even though I'm going slightly off the crux of the idea).

EDIT:
Speaking of excised, I see some posts becoming...

And so, I shall say, when I first saw the English title of this film, along with its screenshots, I was effectively entranced. I definitely forgot to say thank you on my first time around this thread! This looks like a straight up flm classic on my first glance. Not that they were needed at the time I first found this, but I recall looking up "tochter" for other encodes was ineffective, or really rather just scared me off. lol. Definitely still look forward to this movie!

Rest of naming conventions discussion in the spoiler.

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Night457 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:07 pm GOD, how I hate that ASCII art crap. It is distracting and adds absolutely nothing of value. The text information inside can be useful, for sure. The problem is that it is a separate file and can get not reshared on other sites or by other means.

Not reshared key point here. In addition to what you mentioned, in the case of torrents, often enough, the torrents become "ruined" by the removal of extra files like these by unwitting downloaders or people that just want their crap organized. Ever get a torrent that contains a preview file in addition to screenshots?


(And what kind of juvenile wanker chooses "Handjob" as his name for non-porn movies? I avoid those whenever possible, simply because of the name. The quality is not an issue, whenever that is my only source.)

:lol: :D
This was great Night! Hilarious and aptly put. But, I think Handjob in this case refers to either a software encoder, or a certain encoder setting, or an encoding method for video files. A cursory not-so-informative glance churns up:
"HANDJOB isn't a group persay, its a set of easy to follow standards that allows people with little to no expereince to make and upload their own encodes."
Which may be why you see it so often. Fortunately, I am at a time of my life where I don't really have to worry about others seeing the filenames on my computer.


But hey I take whatever i can :)

Likewise, and I'll be happy with it!
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pillowbaker wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:35 pm I recall looking up "tochter" for other encodes was ineffective, or really rather just scared me off. lol
:twisted: Just like searching for any movie or show with "Dad" in the title. I really am not looking for inc3st pr0n.
"HANDJOB isn't a group persay, its a set of easy to follow standards that allows people with little to no expereince to make and upload their own encodes."
Wankers. All of them. :mrgreen:
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