[REL] Zaliniya (2019)

[gehn]

Your reply isn't very friendly

I know, I hate myself not holding myself together lately.

People are more important than work.

Was it you, who did the English translation? I'm asking because the subs weren't posted by you.

Yes, the Russian subs I obtained from MeGOGO, and I think they were made by the Russian government (#18 Залиния)
https://culture.gov.ru/about/department ... ntariyami/

I thought you definitely did improve/clarify some parts - I was thankful for that.

Your reply was gracious. I need to slink back and disappear into a wall again.

[ghost]

So I guess aisa and gehn are the same person

Well you know, I was working about 6 damned hours on these subs and I should have stopped when my concentration was getting less and less...
That's also the reason for these grammar mistakes

[gehn]

Well you know, I was working about 6 damned hours on these subs and I should have stopped when my concentration was getting less and less...
That's also the reason for these grammar mistakes

Gah, you really did put a lot of work into this..

I catastrophized on the witchcraft issue, but you fixed a total error I made in the Red Girl poem (which was driving me nuts... ) ,

and your flow/wording around that whole area (1:16:45-1:17:45) is superior. I misjudged you wrongly..

[ghost]

Here are my revised subtitles. I'm pleased this time.

Any comments are welcome

[Nasuada]

The movie looks very special and I see lot of interesting girl faces, so I'm will let me surprise, what this movie will show me.

Many thanks for all the work around the translation to Ghost and gehn

[popdrome]

Here are my revised subtitles. I'm pleased this time.

Thanks for the hard work you put in, ghost.

[gehn]

Any comments are welcome

Just a minor thing, but you cut out the hypnotist's monologue on TV at the end. (It explains why the little boy pees his pants.) e.g. 2:05:28 "Why are we turning pale?", etc...

I'm not able to proofread right now. If you didn't watch an MTL (or my edit) along with the movie, it's understandable if you thought some lines were nonsense. (I've made that mistake on other movies, myself.) I did spend an entire day on the English ones I posted, at least 10 hours. (I'm OCD..)

But I make mountains out of moleholes, so to speak.. I'm sure it's quite watchable the way you've done it.

[Night457]

Yes, yet another English subtitle revision :

Zaliniya (2019) Another English subtitle.zip

This version takes ghost's 2nd revision and restores 25 missing lines, which I took from gehn's version. Their two versions had slightly different timings, so I stayed with ghost's. See the added-back-in lines here:

Spoiler: 557 01:16:37,525 --> 01:16:40,575 Sleepy sleep now. 712 01:34:32,031 --> 01:34:33,041 Оh... 803 01:51:25,047 --> 01:51:26,057 Uh-huh. 814 01:52:32,256 --> 01:52:33,266 Uh-huh? 848 02:02:41,834 --> 02:02:46,854 ...has already gone up. such a big wave 849 02:02:47,394 --> 02:02:52,204 faith, the setting that man can help man, 850 02:02:52,224 --> 02:02:56,394 and even at a distance that it is is the main and leading factor. 852 02:02:59,774 --> 02:03:03,564 ...you could wave your arms and you could do anything. 853 02:03:03,594 --> 02:03:08,224 But the car is already running. The machine is new the relationship of man to man. 854 02:03:08,244 --> 02:03:13,264 And I think this is one of the most of the best mental epidemics, 855 02:03:13,334 --> 02:03:16,504 which were without harm to humanity. 882 02:05:28,323 --> 02:05:30,263 Why are we turning pale? 883 02:05:32,723 --> 02:05:34,953 No smirks, though. 884 02:05:35,533 --> 02:05:38,953 So that your face will be unchanged. 885 02:05:38,973 --> 02:05:41,373 When you smile, you have You have wrinkles on your face. 886 02:05:43,083 --> 02:05:45,393 And be still. 887 02:05:45,693 --> 02:05:47,743 With your face... 888 02:05:48,113 --> 02:05:50,333 Well, now you've looked to the right. 889 02:05:50,543 --> 02:05:53,143 Your neighbors have looked. Evaluated your face. 890 02:05:53,233 --> 02:05:55,603 Now look to your left. 891 02:05:55,783 --> 02:05:58,263 And there on the right are your neighbors. 892 02:07:30,813 --> 02:07:33,503 It's alright, it's alright ... 894 02:08:02,542 --> 02:08:04,452 Shh-shh-shh-shh. 908 02:09:59,955 --> 02:10:04,186 Shh-shh-shh-shh. 909 02:10:04,286 --> 02:10:07,787 Shh-shh-shh-shh.

Some are insignificant, but clearly a good portion of them are actual dialog. It looks like they somehow got cut out of ghost's first revision. Nodding off on the delete key, maybe? Or just serious indifference to the guy on the TV.

I did not try to alter the translations except for a few no doubt controversial revisions of talking to the baby, the typical things said to hush a fussy infant.

you cut out the hypnotist's monologue on TV at the end. (It explains why the little boy pees his pants.) e.g. 2:05:28 "Why are we turning pale?", etc...

Thank you! This made me check it out and then I saw the multiple missing lines. But I STILL don't understand WHY he pees his pants. Please tell me! Do kids pee themselves when they think the guy on TV is talking to them?!??! The hypnotist did not exactly say "Just relax, let it out. Sssssss. Sssssss. Isn't that better?"

And I must ask about this:

only rudimentary editing of Deepl

I did spend an entire day on the English ones I posted, at least 10 hours.

OK, I just can NOT reconcile these two statements! If you spent at least 10 hours, how is that "only rudimentary editing"?!!?!?!

I totally understand obsessiveness with subtitles. I have spent that much time on a single half-hour episode of a Swedish TV series. (I don't speak Swedish at all, so it took real research to comb through the machine-translation multiple times to improve it, trying to keep it true to the source.)

THANK YOU BOTH, ghost and gehn! I really do appreciate what you have done! I may even be ready to watch it again soon, this time with the subtitles. I watched it thrice without.

[gehn]

Thank you, Night. I was afraid of wearing ghost out, and you saved the day.

But I STILL don't understand WHY he pees his pants. Please tell me! Do kids pee themselves when they think the guy on TV is talking to them?!??! The hypnotist did not exactly say "Just relax, let it out. Sssssss. Sssssss. Isn't that better?

LOL
Maybe kids have a built-in level of incontinence that gets triggered by "altered consciousness" (like sleeping)?

Or the director just wanted that effect to happen.

OK, I just can NOT reconcile these two statements

A) I've been burned too many times overestimating my results and making dumb oversights, especially with only 1 day of eyes :/
B) as alluded in Dec post, I felt confused on many parts (maybe Russian talking style?), so it was a way of saying "it needs work" (and it did)
C) I've been humb-dazzled by how rigorous "good" VN translation groups operate..

• TL by bilingual lead
• editing by advanced native for full use of vocabulary/idioms/nuance
• TLC (TL check) to make sure original sense wasn't lost
• QC (quality control) by a 4th person

I felt rudimentary was the right word. Anyway, you've lifted a burden/weight off me. Really appreciated your post.

[ghost]

Just a minor thing, but you cut out the hypnotist's monologue on TV at the end. (It explains why the little boy pees his pants.) e.g. 2:05:28 "Why are we turning pale?", etc...

I thought that all the stuff spoken on TV isn't important for the plot. But you're right: The peeing scene in the end makes sense and I will add it again

• TL by bilingual lead
• editing by advanced native for full use of vocabulary/idioms/nuance
• TLC (TL check) to make sure original sense wasn't lost
• QC (quality control) by a 4th person

This would be absolute perfection.. Well, at least 3 people were checking them now

I watched the movie yesterday night with my "new" subtitles and I was really pleased with the result (ok, except the TV at the end).