Yeah I’m always already thinking I’m misunderstanding something with my English lol
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No, your English is better than some native English-speakers.
And reading through your bit on here I think you got the gist of it. Her career is over because she'll never compete with anyone on pornhub.
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Don't get your knickers all twisted because I pointed out one of the harsh realities of the movie business: it's an environment based on looks, and certain looks at that. I wasn't saying anything about her acting skills, which i think are excellent.
But my estimation is that she will have a harder time getting work than for example, Dafne Keen, especially lead roles. So your estimation is different, shocker... ! SFW?
There are only so many roles for a Rebel Wilson, and even shé is conforming to the usual standards as of late, perhaps more for health reasons than anything else, but she's still doing it.
But, like I said before in this thread, opportunities for non-boilerplate beauties are better than ever, and if she does make it, all the more power to her. There are some like her who have made it, like Tilda Swinton (but when she was younger... ), but not all that many.
BTW, thanks for the pornhub exaggeration, that was really helpful. As was the neonazi reference.
I see little to no value in talking about this, because #heiligeEmpörung. So I won't.
But my estimation is that she will have a harder time getting work than for example, Dafne Keen, especially lead roles. So your estimation is different, shocker... ! SFW?
There are only so many roles for a Rebel Wilson, and even shé is conforming to the usual standards as of late, perhaps more for health reasons than anything else, but she's still doing it.
But, like I said before in this thread, opportunities for non-boilerplate beauties are better than ever, and if she does make it, all the more power to her. There are some like her who have made it, like Tilda Swinton (but when she was younger... ), but not all that many.
BTW, thanks for the pornhub exaggeration, that was really helpful. As was the neonazi reference.
I see little to no value in talking about this, because #heiligeEmpörung. So I won't.
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There were so many actresses who were crushing it (right now), but never really made it. Dana Plato comes to mind, but also less dramatic examples like Mara Wilson, Lisa Jakub, Vivien Cardone, Meredith Deane, Adair Tishler, Full House girls.
She's a great actress, so I hope she makes it. Time will tell.
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I am probably too young too know most of these namesTriela wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:19 pmThere were so many actresses who were crushing it (right now), but never really made it. Dana Plato comes to mind, but also less dramatic examples like Mara Wilson, Lisa Jakub, Vivien Cardone, Meredith Deane, Adair Tishler, Full House girls.
She's a great actress, so I hope she makes it. Time will tell.
I think only Heard briefly of Mara Wilson before.I must say I really like dafne keen but even she doesn’t fit Into the regular beauty standards or hot Hollywood stars category.
Honestly looks only obviously also don’t guarantee a long career. I’d take Victoria Justice as an example. This girl has done so many mediocre tv shows that were canceled after one season and low budget movies. While having the looks of an absolute star. But you could say her biggest success was as teen star on „Victorious“ her own Tv series.
Ariana Grande only made it to „more“ because of the singing talent (she can sing, look up her White House appearances).
I could imagine that Zendaya has even more female fans. She’s to this day still kind of a tomboy (don’t get me wrong she’s beautiful and can look girly). The one that probably fits the most into your category of hot young actress that will still look good in 10 years is Millie Bobbie Brown. She actually only got more attractive I’d argue (who knows..maybe she already did some surgical modifications or it’s just a lot of makeup). The Deepfakes I’ve seen of her were funnily one of the most convincing ones I’ve come across.
I’d go as far as to say that character actresses like Bella Rampsey have longer careers because they don’t have to rely on pure looks. They get cast for their performance (Philip Seymour-Hoffman would be the male equivalent, RIP). Tiles Swinton has always been more of a European actress while having a couple Hollywood/international roles.
I’d also say Hollywood has changed a bit in the past 10 years in these regards. Women that usually wouldn’t have made it that big finally made it. octavia spencer. And don’t ask me how Amy Schumer got her movies..lol
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hard to believe she played the dumb-blonde character on those Nickelodeon shows. Oh well. I'm grateful to her since me singing her song "Break up with your girlfriend" made me popular with a bunch of 10 year olds. Never had that when i was 10.
my point wasn't about that but about movie-longevity for non-standard beautiful girls. Zendaya is not that, certainly not now.I could imagine that Zendaya has even more female fans.
She's flat chested, somewhat, but not tomboyish.She’s to this day still kind of a tomboy
I thought she was unconvincing in her first TV show Intruders. She gave it a good shot, but couldn't do "angry" well. Unlike Dafne Keen in "Logan". Who is ENTIRELY a standard Hollywood beauty, i disagree with you there. What do you find non-standard about her? That's she looks Latina?will still look good in 10 years is Millie Bobbie Brown.
OM effing G, there's deepfakes of MBB???The Deepfakes I’ve seen of her
This was MY point from the beginning of this thread: have beauty standards shifted that much that Bella can have a successful career?I’d also say Hollywood has changed a bit in the past 10 years in these regards. (...) octavia spencer
How?And don’t ask me how Amy Schumer got her movies..lol
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She started to wear more female clothing etc but in her personal life I believe she still often looks tomboyish but I probably have different definition of that word lol
I guess I was too hard on her here. I was thinking about her facial/head symmetry, nose etc. - like she is no Lilly Collins. But does have an attractiveness for sure.Unlike Dafne Keen in "Logan". Who is ENTIRELY a standard Hollywood beauty, i disagree with you there. What do you find non-standard about her? That's she looks Latina?
Yeah dozens. And in my opinion they are extremely convincing, some of the DeepFakes creators are truly magicians when they find The Right Body Double to merge with the celebrity‘s face. Millie got put into various castingcouch themed videos. I will see what I can dig upOM effing G, there's deepfakes of MBB???
This was point from the beginning of this thread: have beauty standards shifted that much that Bella can have a successful career?I’d also say Hollywood has changed a bit in the past 10 years in these regards. (...) octavia spencer
How?And don’t ask me how Amy Schumer got her movies..lol
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