[REL] The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle (1980)

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What can be done with this? Only one scence, but such a scene... Out :think
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I remember seeing this in the cinema and then later watching it on VHS when it was released. The black underwear the girl is 'wearing' was not present on the original 35mm cinema print (at least not in the UK) and was clearly painted on at some later time. I have come across several versions of the film since but never an 'uncensored' version. Anyone else have any details about this?
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I wasn't there so I don't know the truth of the matter, and there are conflicting stories and rumors online. Some reading:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080813/trivia/
https://melonfarmers.co.uk/hitsg_gn.htm ... ll_swindle
https://moviechat.org/tt0080813/The-Gre ... ew-DVD-cut

The previously-linked ulozto file has disappeared, but a "1080p" version has shown up:
https://ulozto.net/file/k34kadNJa11H/19 ... IXnwZ1Lt==

It is also the censored version, although you do get to see Malcolm in the bath and Ronnie Biggs cavorting with a few of the Pistols on the beach.

Censored version pictures if you dare:
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Night457 wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:31 am I wasn't there so I don't know the truth of the matter, and there are conflicting stories and rumors online.

You can see the edges of her black panties shift around in a funny way. Yep, it looks like they chose to avoid an R18 rating by partially redacting the girl instead of cutting that scene entirely or zooming in. Probably nothing more complicated than an animator with a black marker - there weren't that many frames, the effort involved was minimal. If this film ever got a bluray release the marker job would look terrible. They'd either have to release it uncensored or re-do the coverup digitally.

The DVD version I have is okay quality, a lot better than VHS but nothing to write home about. Too bad the HD file is censored!
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I believe it DID get R18 or X in the U.K. even WITH the censorship because it would have been blocked entirely without it, at least back then: protection of minors and all that.
deadman wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:36 pmIf this film ever got a bluray release the marker job would look terrible.
Perfect! :D

I think the cheap and dirty censorship fits with the tone of the film in it obviousness. I would NOT want them to fix it to make it look like real panties, if it HAS to remain censored. Leave it the squiggly marker effect.

Is your DVD censored in that scene? I did not check, but I am almost certain that mine is. It was never a scene I paid much attention to, because I was trying not to see Malcolm's floating bollocks.

Most of the arguments and fuzzy memories seem to be over when censorship was applied in various geographical regions. I am not clear in what form it was released theatrically in the U.S., for example.

Ultimately the scene and image has pretty much nothing to do with the film, and the real Soo Catwoman was NOT Malcolm McLaren's underage undress and dressup doll. I think the movie does a good job showing him as a contemptible turd, which is probably how he wanted to be viewed. When I revisit it, it is for the musical performances rather than the wretched narrative segments, and particularly not for Malcolm's musings.
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The cuts to the film mention "several" scenes of the actress being cut.
This looks like a low-res image of the same actress in same make-up. So maybe one of the scenes?
https://www.geocities.ws/destroyfactory ... lesue.html
Supposedly there was an uncut vhs floating around? That the digital pants were added for the theatrical release and then copied globally. So maybe the uncut version only exists in some 40 year old VHS copies!
As to why there is a high quality colour still of her (see links posted before) it appears it was included uncensored in the LP:
https://www.vinyl-shop.cz/produkt/sex-p ... swindle-5/
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