[REL] Schatjes! aka Army Brats (1984)

[mexlink]

I am curious about your sources too, goku33. Please do tell.

deadman, I did find these:
https://ulozto.net/file/ZSiRxJAPmr51/sc ... 4-720p-mkv - cursory glance at the preview shows this one looks decent, but perhaps only as good as the DVD.

and

https://ulozto.net/file/MNKc84RZjAl5/sc ... scaled-mp4 - just as quick a preview glance shows this one looks pretty good actually. Not too over upscaled, nice detailing. I might try to grab this one, depending on how goku's finds turn out.

I noticed even the upscale on uloz got these weird lines across the screen/image. Either artistic Choice (LOL) or an error from dvd/vhs capturing.

Is it better than deadman's PAL DVD version?

[Triela]

I found this and it really disappoints me.

In 2013, a TV special was broadcast in The Netherlands, in which an attorney explained that, as stated by Dutch law, this movie can be considered child pornography, since actress Akkemay was only 14 years old when she did her nude and sex scenes. Consequently, distributing and owning this movie would officially be punishable by law. Furthermore, the producers, director and adult actors who worked on the sex scenes could technically be prosecuted for child molestation, had the time period for such an offense as defined in the statute of limitation not already been exceeded. In the same special, Akkemay herself asserted that she had read the script beforehand, and that she and the director had both reached an agreement on the way the nude scenes were shot.

The worst nothing of what is mentioned is seen in the film except the bed scene is not real it is only limited kisses, there was another film where there are children 'giving love' is in Moonlight.

I'd argue Moonlight is different because the actors are the same age. A counter argument would be there was a case where two 15 years old were BOTH accused of "sex with a minor", of course in some red American state. A counter-counter argument would be that it's a red state, they are completely crazy and extreme anyway so ....

[Sully23]

I'm not surprised if 2 teenagers in life are sexually active in America, ask Zoey 101 at first I thought if it was Chase or James (Elvis 2022)

[Walter]

I'd argue Moonlight is different because the actors are the same age. A counter argument would be there was a case where two 15 years old were BOTH accused of "sex with a minor", of course in some red American state. A counter-counter argument would be that it's a red state, they are completely crazy and extreme anyway so ....

True, but don't think that just because a state's not red that it can't have illogical and abusive laws concerning the matter. California is a deep-blue state, yet the age of consent is 18 with no "Romeo and Juliet" exception. I read an (admittedly anecdotal) story where an irate Californian father demanded that a policeman arrest a teen boy who'd slept with his daughter of similar age, and the policeman was obliged to inform the father that under California law, if he wanted to go that route the officer would have to arrest his daughter as well - at which point the father hastily withdrew his demand.

[deadman]

I'd argue Moonlight is different because the actors are the same age. A counter argument would be there was a case where two 15 years old were BOTH accused of "sex with a minor", of course in some red American state. A counter-counter argument would be that it's a red state, they are completely crazy and extreme anyway so ....

True, but don't think that just because a state's not red that it can't have illogical and abusive laws concerning the matter. California is a deep-blue state, yet the age of consent is 18 with no "Romeo and Juliet" exception.

Yeah, laws in some states say that sex between two minors isn't a crime, or between a minor and an adult with fewer than x number of years between the two (the x varying somewhat). This is the sensible way to do it. The point of these laws is to protect children from abuse. Not provide a tool for angry parents to jail a boyfriend they don't like.

While Moonlight could never have been filmed in the US there's nothing technically illegal about it, since the two actors aren't really having sex. Only films with actual sex acts involving minors are illegal. In that scene at the end of Moonlight we see just their upper bodies. For obvious reasons. The director would've told Laurien to climb on top and move back and forth like this (while demonstrating the motion) which she then did. Both kids were wearing bottoms you can't see because they're either offscreen or, in the following scene, hidden under blankets.

Underage nudity by itself isn't against the law even here in America. It's not done anymore because the culture has changed in the last few decades. You'd have a hard time finding young actresses comfortable with shedding their clothes (or parents willing to allow it) and there'd be controversy of the angry boycott kind against your film - and whichever studio released it.

[Davros6]

Underage nudity by itself isn't against the law even here in America. It's not done anymore because the culture has changed in the last few decades. You'd have a hard time finding young actresses comfortable with shedding their clothes (or parents willing to allow it) and there'd be controversy of the angry boycott kind against your film - and whichever studio released it.

As I've said on an other post, Americans reactions to underage nudity is totally different to the rest of the world.
I suppose, as well, the nudity has to have a reason behind it, which is why most underage nude scenes are shower/changing room scenes, getting changed or skinny dipping. There's definitely been less movies in the last few years with underage nudity in them, but they still do, occasionally happen, but only in European movies.

[Triela]

I read an (admittedly anecdotal) story where an irate Californian father demanded that a policeman arrest a teen boy who'd slept with his daughter of similar age, and the policeman was obliged to inform the father that under California law, if he wanted to go that route the officer would have to arrest his daughter as well - at which point the father hastily withdrew his demand.

If that's a true story, it's hilarious. I do remember a Florida case of an 18 year old girl who kissed (or more) a 15 year old girl, and the 18 year old plead guilty to some pedo charges to avoid worse. Click here. Is that is religious persecution, cos it was clearly done from an xtian perspective? Of course, officially ... I have no opinion.

There's definitely been less movies in the last few years with underage nudity in them, but they still do, occasionally happen, but only in European movies.

Really not a lot. L'immoralita and Piccole Labbra were kind of crazy in this regard, but generally, good movies.

[goku33]

Really not a lot. L'immoralita and Piccole Labbra were kind of crazy in this regard, but generally, good movies.

For me it’s more a question on which kind of nudity. Films like Schatjes where the actress is making out with a guy in the shower or Fulaninjha which @deadman just found an upgrade to, will not be made anymore in today’s age and society. Some kid just innocently taking a bath or going swimming? Still „doable“ today but your probably right that even these kind of scenes have drastically become less (from a parent and child’s perspective very understandable in my opinion. Only few (exploitive or outlandish „free“) parents will be comfortable with their kid posing/acting nude on the big screen.

Off-topic about the Film „Thirteen“:

Spoiler: I do miss teen films that are more risky. I always wished Nikki reed and Evan Rachel Wood would have showed „more“ in the Film „Thirteen“ (still had nice scenes but probably would have shown much more if it’s been a French film). Interestingly nikki reed co-wrote the Script for that Film at an early age. https://piped.video/watch?v=dad4-gQfhMs From a YouTube comment under the trailer video: I have to say, as a teenager myself, I will forever praise this movie for how accurate teenagers are. The ambitions to be popular, the depressive mood swings and freak outs, everything. This movie doesn’t sexualize or patronize teens for entertainment. I was so happy that I could relate to the girls onscreen. Although I never went through what Tracy went through, I have had friends who were toxic, manipulative, and always pushed me to do bad things. I love this movie, and I’m happy that Nikki Reed and Catherine Hardwicke were able to share such a brutally-realistic story about teenagers, drugs, and wanting to be popular. Another one: This movie feels like home to me. I understand a lot of people were playing with barbies at thirteen but for those of us who were not, i'm glad we made it out alive. <3

[Davros6]

It seems to be only in movies made outside of the US where we see these bath/shower swimming scenes, but I suppose the European view on nudity is different to American views.
Could you imagine if La Tutora (2016) was shown on US television, totally uncensored, with nearly 7 minutes of underage nudity, there'd be uproar.

[Sully23]

La Tutora (2016) was shown on US television, 7 minutes of underage nudity, there'd be uproar.

7 minutes?
I only count 4s of Malena Alonso and another 10s you can only see the feet I don't know if the rest are angel in the pond you can't see anything.