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[REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:38 am
by popdrome
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http://lostmoviesarchive.com/movie.php?id=743&nocache
"Mit Sechzehn bin ich weg" starring Lucie Holmann (of Wilden Huhner fame)
and I must say a very cute girl.

synopsis:
Brutally candid depiction of the life of girl teen trying to make the best of a troubled home life, after moving to a new home and school.

and here's a HQ link:
Like this post to see ed2k links  [386.52 Mb]
set to release!


hope you enjoy.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1177157/

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:56 am
by emuler
Thanks! Any subs?

(Yes, I'm the resident subtitle monster. :bigups )

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:03 am
by popdrome
emuler wrote:Thanks! Any subs?

(Yes, I'm the resident subtitle monster. :bigups )
blimey - I remember, emuler!

Sorry don't have subs that I know of. :( :think

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:06 am
by Debaser
Brutally candid
Sounds good to me ;)

Thanks

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:54 am
by goku33
Do you still have this film? I found a low res XviD version but the old version that was posted here must have been higher quality.

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:20 pm
by Night457
Thank you very much to whoever reshared this!
goku33 wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:54 am I found a low res XviD version but the old version that was posted here must have been higher quality.
I guess the version you found is this 480p one at YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj6SW93S4Cw

You are right, goku33, the old file at FLM looks better. Not alot, but enough to be noticeable.

Comparison specs:
Spoiler:

General : Mit 16 bin ich weg xvid.mp4 [YOUTUBE]
Format : MPEG-4 at 774 kb/s
Length : 164 MiB for 29 min 32 s 937 ms
Video #0 : AVC at 641 kb/s
Aspect : 640 x 480 (1.333) at 25.000 fps
Audio #0 : AAC at 128 kb/s
Infos : 2 channels, 44.1 kHz

and
General : Mit16BinIchWeg.s!Xvid.aliv.avi [FLM]
Format : AVI at 1 764 kb/s
Length : 387 MiB for 30 min 38 s 120 ms
Video #0 : MPEG-4 Visual at 1 623 kb/s
Aspect : 720 x 368 (1.957) at 25.000 fps
Audio #0 : MPEG Audio at 128 kb/s
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 kHz
The Youtube version is cropped on the sides and looks like it came from videotape.

The FLM version has the full image on the sides but looks like it is also stretched wider than it should be. I am guessing that it ought to be played instead at 16:10 ratio in VLC. (Possibly 16:9, I am not sure.)
[EDIT -- Mimzy has convinced me that I am definitely WRONG here and it should NOT be 16:10. Now I think it should be 1.85, but I am not going to create more screenshots. I may change my mind again tomorrow.]

LEFT: Youtube ____________MIDDLE: FLM default ___ RIGHT: FLM played with 16:10 aspect ratio

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Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:14 pm
by mimzy
If the FLM default is stretched, then very little IMO. The middle picture looks like the most correct aspect ratio of the 3.

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:09 am
by Night457
mimzy wrote: Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:14 pm If the FLM default is stretched, then very little IMO.
I have to admit that you are right, mimzy! I started out taking screencaptures simply to demonstrate the difference between the two different videos, Youtube and FLM. It was only while I was doing that I noticed the aspect ratio looked off, and I stuck with the same images for my aspect ratio samples. But I know that people come in a variety of skinny and wide sizes so they may not have been the best image choices. I went through it again and focused on standard-sized objects in the surroundings, like alarm clocks and wall tiles and doors.

Ewww, yuck, my choice of 1.6 is definitely wrong. 1.78 is also (aka 16:9). But the FLM file's 1.957 still looks stretched to me ... VLC has a number of aspect ratio choices, but not the very common 1.85. So I checked out MPC, and while it has fewer aspect ratio choices, it DOES have 1.85.

(Why neither of these video players allows a user to manually enter a value, I do not know.)

BUT -- now I think that the movie SHOULD be 1.85!!! (This is closer to default than any of my other choices.) I won't subject FLM to more screenshots. Unfortunately the video quality always looks terrible with MPC on my computer for some reason (something to do with the video rendering?) so I will have to recode the video entirely in my chosen aspect ratio before I finally watch it.

Maybe some day we will get a version in 1080p with subtitles and uncropped, original correct aspect ratio.

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:01 pm
by Night457
I would like to know the VERY LAST line of dialog from someone who knows German and has seen the film. The last scene is MAJOR SPOILER TERRITORY so please put your answer in spoiler tags!! And don't go skipping to the end if you have not seen it yet. Details here:
Spoiler:

I can clearly hear Jenny ask
"Was hast du gemacht?" / "What did you do?"

and then at 27:35 in the FLM version, 27:30 in the Youtube version,
her father says what sounds sort of like

"Geht er nicht weinen."

Well, "nicht weinen" / "don't cry" makes sense in context, but "He doesn't go crying" does not make quite so much sense to me. So I am pretty sure I have it wrong!

Any input appreciated, thank you very much. Keep the answer hidden with spoiler tags!
That was a really good film! Thanks to popdrome, goku, the secret sharers, and to mimzy!

The lead character Jenny played by Lucie Hollmann was supposed to be 15 according to outside sources and the movie dialog. I said "Hell no! She looks 13 to me!" So I looked up her birthdate and got a filming period of "late summer 2007" from Wikipedia, which meant she was just barely 14. Aha! Don't go lying about your age to ME, girl!

When she was introduced in her new school by the principal, my mind wandered to my fantasy of an honest version of such an introduction of a new student. I think that the principal should say to the rest of the monsters, "I am sure you will treat her just as terribly as you do anyone else who is not in your private clique." That would be so refreshing in a movie! But that was not particularly where this film was headed, so it was not an issue.

For most of the runtime I was pleased to find that I was basically following the plot without any real knowledge of German. Then at the end I realized that I had really missed something important from getting only the emotional context of Jenny's conversations with her parents, and not the content of it. Oh well. From what I read online it was supposed to be a shocking ending anyway, and they got me alright. :shock:

I fully admit that I am an obsessive nitpicker with my struggle about the aspect ratio, 1.957 in the FLM release. Rightly or wrongly, I watched it in 1.85 AR. I am not about to put another version on emule, but I uploaded my 1.85 recode to ulozto:

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https://ulozto.net/file/lBoTBHpNDaJJ/mit-sechzehn-bin-ich-weg-2008-ar-1-85-recode-mp4?_fid=560r#!ZJR4AmR2AzMvAJV5MwR1ZzLlLGt0Z0cXLHEnESISIQNjHJLmZj==

Re: [REL] Mit 16 bin Ich weg (2008) [short]

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:10 pm
by mimzy
Night457 wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:01 pm I would like to know the VERY LAST line of dialog from someone who knows German and has seen the film. The last scene is MAJOR SPOILER TERRITORY so please put your answer in spoiler tags!! And don't go skipping to the end if you have not seen it yet. Details here:
Spoiler:

I can clearly hear Jenny ask
"Was hast du gemacht?" / "What did you do?"

and then at 27:35 in the FLM version, 27:30 in the Youtube version,
her father says what sounds sort of like

"Geht er nicht weinen."

Well, "nicht weinen" / "don't cry" makes sense in context, but "He doesn't go crying" does not make quite so much sense to me. So I am pretty sure I have it wrong!

Any input appreciated, thank you very much. Keep the answer hidden with spoiler tags!

I haven't watched the movie yet, but you made me too curious if I can get the line or not :wall

So I seeked to the exact time (hoping to not spoil too much) and without knowing any context, I can suggest
Spoiler:

"Geh da nicht rein!" -- "Don't go in there!"
but I'm sure one of our native German members will have the definite answer.